Hello face painting friends one and all….last week I uploaded a slide show with photos of myself in body paint (and of others) that many of you saw… now while the majority of the comments and feedback were very positive and people enjoyed the artwork (painted by Mark Reid, Yolanda Bartram and Lynne Jamieson) and my ‘attempt’ at modelling, I did receive an email from a blog reader who had a totally different view – which really interested me.
I won’t give away this person’s identity but I did want to discuss her view, to see if anybody agrees / disagrees or has something to add. Firstly I’ll say that she was completely kind and polite in her email, and wrote to me because she was truly concerned and I totally respect her efforts — especially since her view doesn’t seem to be too popular in this circle, and its hard for people to say what they believe when its not popular, you know?
She was bothered by the fact that I modelled for an artist (who is not my spouse) in the ‘nude’ and walked around the convention with only body paint on. She felt it was immoral for me to allow others to view my body like that and informed me of the rammifications of this ‘sin’.
Now from what I gathered she is a very conservative person and of a particular faith. Seeing as I am not religious at all, I’d like to ask you, my readers (no matter what faith, or if you don’t have one)
What do you think of this view and what your view is?
I’d really like to hear from people who do have a faith and agree or disagree, and especially from people who share her view but maybe didn’t want to speak up before because it they thought it wasn’t a popular opinion.
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Warning: Any offensive comments will be deleted straight away, I want this to be a civilized conversation between people who are connected through one thing that makes them similar – the art of face and body painting.
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I am a christian with a strong faith. I think that if you paraded around like that, in another environment, out of the artistic convention that it was designed in, then I think it would offend some people and bring on attention from those just intersted in it sexually, and that could be viewed as bringing on trouble and “sin”. However, it was designed at an artist’s convention, on God’s living canvas, and viewed as a work of art, not something sexual. I would have to disagree, but I understand the other person’s position.
Philadelphia
You’re beautiful and don’t you forget it.
Of course people will “comment”, so what!
You see more “sin” on TV & mags…don’t you dare feel condemned or guilty…beauty is in the eye of the beholder…this person didn’t see you as a living artistic “beauty”. She interpreted you as “provoking sin” or “sinful”…BS!!
A woman’s body was made by God (nipples & all!!)
Her interpretation was sinful coz she’s judging you & only has a “sin consciousness”…there’s only one Judge & Lord of all, He won’t fall off His Throne or close down Heaven because you love your own body & showed a few people….whoopeeeee do!!!!!
I love your website Tivoli & I’ve used your facepainting tips, thankyou.
Your’re a “Bonza Chickee Babe”
Kind regards
Jacqui
BTW..I’m a Christian, proud of it and free from condemnation!!
While the artwork was beautiful, in my opinion, I would not have liked to see naked people walking around. There is much to say about the benefits of wearing clothing. Regardless of the type of body art that was painted, one can clearly see the different parts of the body. Again, the artwork was beautifully executed, but I would prefer seeing clothed models. Thank you, though, for your great website and wonderful face painting tips. I really appreciate your expertise in this area. Have a great day.
I can understand, coming from a conservative state, that some would be offended. All of the models that were body painted in the Florida Keys Halloween Festival were beautiful and looked as if the models were wearing clothing. I feel you can cover you body with clothing that is loose, almost not there at all or body paint and and it is all the same. We are looking at ART and not nudity. If you are concerned about seeing the person naked you are looking at body parts not the art. It was beautiful wish I had the talent
Laney
I want to leave a comment about the body art before I cancel my subscription to your newsletter. I started to cancel, and then thought I need to let you know why. I too, with your other reader, find it offensive on moral grounds. I realize you may only be looking for responses to justify your doing this form of “art”. I do not consider this art in any way.
I am really reconsidering now why I should continue face painting if it is so closely related to full body nudity. I thought I was the only one offended by what you did. At least there is one other person.
Thank you for reading my comment.
I feel that full body painting at a face and body painting convention is perfectly natural and to be expected. You were not showing bare…parts. It is my opinion that you looked GEORGOUS. I feel life is too short to worry about what other people are doing.
The artwork was vibrant, classy and highly professional. You looked fabulous Philadelphia!
I too, am bothered by the growing interest in body painting. Is there any reason why people can’t be painted with a bit of clothing on? I am especially unhappy with the snazaroo photo site that I “used to” work from daily when I was learning to paint. Those past years are still there but a big percent of the new stuff there is blood and guts. And on other sites, including Silly Farm, the way to go is body paint. Why? I love to paint flowers, butterflies, swirls and animals. I love to paint on children. I know everyone has their taste but personally I think everything is reflective of what this world is coming too. I guess I am a face painting fan rather than a body painting fan. Go for it, whatever works for you. Like with TV, I don’t have to look at it.
Hi Philadelphia, I too agree with the subscriber who stated that she felt that full body art was offensive. Whilst I can see there is definitely an art to it, I do not feel that painting people’s breasts, buttocks or genitalia is necessary.
If I were to attend any face painting convention then I certainly would not want to be confronted by bare breasted (or buttocked) women or men – even if they were ‘covered’ by paint.
I applaude you however for your lovely face painting skills and thank you for your helpful tips in that area.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion – & I respect anyone’s religion. Since you were walking around wearing only body paint in an environment which was condusive – surrounded by artists and viewed online by people like me who would die to be able to create such a work of art – it’s very clever, and if the body is a canvas, so what. Let’s face it we view art on canvas in art galleries of naked people – not even covered in paint!! If you don’t want to see it, don’t look. That goes for TV programmes in my mind – don’t complain about it, turn it off.
If you did this in a country where women were expected to cover up – then I would say it was disrespectful – but not at an artists’ convention in Australia! Kind regards
NIkki
Hi Philadelphia:
Every year in Key West, FL there are body painters stationed in every corner inside the shops for the Fantasy Fest. Everybody is running around the city all painted up! I worked in one of the shops that had a body painter and there were naked people everywhere in the store and even tho it felt kind of weird at first, after a while it seemed so natural! l! I sold a lot of jewelry for their “costumes” … it was just plain old fun really. It was interesting to watch them be transformed into their fantasy… and to watch the painters do it. I really think you have nothing to be ashamed of… its not like you are totally naked you have a suit on, right? And you look gorgeous too!! So dont worry Philadelphia there is absolutely nothing wrong with what you did!!
Being a Christian myself for decades and knowing how other Christians turn people away from a relationship from God because of their short mindedness and criticism, thinking that their way is the only way, I deeply apologize. Christianity is supposed to be about worshipping God and our relationship with Him and sharing his love with others and leading by example by living in love and grace, not hell and damnation and condemnation. Body painting is an art. As long as there isn’t immorral feelings, thoughts or behavior there is nothing wrong with it. I loved the Australian flag with the koala; very beautiful!
In my opinion, I think it looks better than some swimsuits I’ve seen, those that have thongs up the rear or just barely cover the breasts. With full body paint more of the body is covered than when wearing shorts or shirts that barely cover the tummy. Anyone who goes to an art covention usually knows there will be bodypainting, and if they do not wish to see this, then they have the choice to stay away. If the people who do not want to do the body painting then they also have the choice of just doing full face painting and/or cheek art. We (in the USA) still live in a free country and I’m sure most of your subscribers do also and therefore they also have the choices of staying and looking and learning new techniques or leaving and going home… No one if forcing anyone to look at or take part in this art form… Personally, I think they were beautiful and can’t wait to see more pics and hear more about the convention….Thanks and keep up the great work…
hi philly,
well some poeple are still on old fashioned and we cant help that,im a christian person too,but i know what the difference of nudity and art works,when i started learning face painting,all i know all kind of painting is an art work and people can admire what ever they did,about what u did that was i call an art work by prof.,if some people get offended b-coz is a body paint,well i would say they still living on the stone age,hellorrrrrr,this is body paint not face painting so consentrate on face painting and people likes body painting they should understand what u did,that this is kind of a proff.art work,this is a freedom of expression of ART, its not something to put on the porn site,for my oppinion as a new face painter,this is how u can expand your ability to do as a proff,painter,like other staff that u can do .ex,special FX,prosthetics &nature painting,henna or tattos transfer,,and i think even you did face painting like dragon or an scary face,if you look it on others side tha is a sin too same with tattos coz were not sopposed to put anything on our body.like earing to.i dont like earing us well but the same reason that we can’t be offended coz in other hand u dint do anything wrong,and not a “SIN”,is an “ART WORK “.SIMILAR PROBLEM ON THE PHOTOGRAPHY,if u think about it,people can offend us well on the nude photos,????but other poff.photographer,is an ART WORK,,HELLOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR,,,WELCOME TO THE MILLINIUM,GUYS,,,,thanks for reading,,,,and i love that work,
Hello,
I would like to reply by saying that even though I disagree with this person’s point of view, I definitely respect it. Though I don’t think people should run around town every day in only body paint, I think it is completely acceptable at a face & body painting convention.
Oh Please!! As an artist that has been so fortunate to have been invited to paint a body in “The Body Art Ball” in Dallas for the last several years, it is art!! When an artist has the talent to transform anything into a work of art whether its a face, a canvas or a “body”…then one would hope that the “art” is appreciated….
I am a woman of faith (christian), and I honestly do not see anything wrong with your ‘modeling’. You posed for another person, not your spouse, but if you didn’t have ‘relations’ with them, then you did nothing wrong in that aspect. And technically, you didn’t walk around in the nude. You had paint covering 90percent of your body, and there a so many people now days that walk around with so little clothes on that it leaves nothing to the imagination. I think your modeling was beautiful!
Hi,
There is a concern about showing your nude and private areas to someone other than your husband. While I fully agree that you shouln’t parade your nudity around in a sexual manner or blatantly towards someone other than your better half; there are two ways of looking at it.
1. You deliberatly want to show off your nudity and so are sneakily doing it behind the mask of “art”
2. The person painting you is treating your body the way a doctor or nurse might, and to them, it is just another canvass.
I would prefer it if you wore maybe a bikini top personally. However, if option two is the case (or maybe you were painted by a woman?) then I don’t see any sin in that. Some of the most amazing art has been on beautiful bodies.
The only advice I can give you (if you are willing to take it) is to seek the Lord and make your own choice on wether God deems it sinful or not. Ultimately it will be you and you only who will be held accountable.
But I truely don’t believe that this was in anyway a sexual showing of body painting. And thus I believe that in your case the option 2 applies???
But then I might be wrong…
Hi
I just saw your body art. You are just beautiful and have a great shape.
I am in my 60′s and thought it was absolutely beautiful. If I could get away with it. I’d do it.
It wasn’t offensive at all. I wish I could paint as well as the person who did your art work. And facepaint as well as you do. I’m trying to learn.
TattiePoo
I love the art!!!! I can’t tolerate the nudity. I’m really dissapointed because I won’t go to the convention if its true there is a bunch of nudity there. As for Christianity, I am as hardline and conservative as it gets on doctrine, so I simply can’t resist commenting: I still have a [christian] tattoo and earrings, which I don’t believe are doctrinal issues, rather left to particular judgment. To bloggers here taking such an assertive position of being a “christian” and being ok with open public nudity, please consider that personal judgment crosses the line into a doctrinal problem when you can’t answer this question with a “yes”: would Jesus do it? I could see Jesus appreciating all forms of art and all forms of people, but I don’t see him parading around in the nude to do so, nor condoning that.
As one blogger said, I will simply choose not to participate in areas that offend my beliefs. However, I will still come here and to Silly Farm (so long as the sites aren’t loaded with nudity) for tips and tutorials on face painting, and I will still enjoy painting and see it as pure in my circle of influence. I am dissapointed that I won’t be going to the convention, though.
Hi,
I am a Christian and have been for many years. I paint kids faces because they love it. I paint kids faces because they are innocent and deserve a little magic in their lives. I totally support the view of the lady who ‘sparked’ this debate. Nudity is nudity, art or not. If nudity causes the kids to lose a little of that innocence I mentioned, I can’t support that. I read Kiki’s comment and admired her stance of canceling her subscription. I read Jacqui’s comment and saw that as an attack on the lady who first contacted you. I dont think that comment should have been posted as you stated that any offensive material would not be allowed. I thank you for not mentioning the name of the lady involved and applaud her for shining her light on the subject. Now, please excuse me while I follow Kiki’s lead and cancel my subscription.
I think that you look great. Who cares what other people think you were consider covered.
I don’t think it is a big deal unless it causes other married folks to WANT your body. I think if that is possible it can hurt a girl’s feelings to see her husband woo at someone else. But i do love the artwork and appreciate it. Not to say that if a couple has problems like that that they will make it or not in the end, but it could aggravate a sensitive problem in some marriages and relationships in general. I think posing for photos that are artful like yours are is fine.
I think there is a time and place. Not appropriate for going to the grocery store, but very appropriate for a convention. The convention listings online seem to always state whether nudity is to be expected. My concern is for the people who think nudity and sexuality are the same. Most people don’t look at the naked baby on a fuzzy rug or Renessiance paintings of nudes as pornography because sex is not implied… but the ones who do see it as porn scare me.
wow…i don’t even know where to start on how i feel about this. first of all, i think what you did was awesome! it is art, and it was beautiful. and what a better place to show off your art, than on the most beautiful canvas of all, the human body. technically you were not really naked. the material covering your body may have been extremely thin, and some what revealing..but aren’t bathing suits as well? and they don’t cover near as much surface then the paint did. i don’t understand the hype about a naked body, and why it is considered taboo. a little off topic but it kinda goes with how i feel about a naked body. so turn on your tv. you have your kids sitting in the room with you, and you turn to a channel where two people are in a loveing embrace, maybe even naked. they are portraying that they obviously love each other and share an intimate moment…well most people would quickly change the channel to overt the little eyes to something a little less “racy” and the next channel is a crime show with guns being fired off and people being murderd or hurt. more people would opt for their child to watch that, then something so natural and beautiful. and why?! the naked body as well as love and sex, is natural, and beautiful…so why conceal it, and be offended when you see it conveyed in a mature, non-adult film manner? it is not like what you were doing was pornography, you were just using your “tool” the human body in a more unique way. i just wish others could see it that way as well.
I really enjoyed the body paint photos and I loved hearing how much you enjoyed the convention. I love to see other people happy – it makes me happy. I see nothing immoral about it. No one was hurt – what is she talking about immoral? Some people are just insecure and they need to find faults with others in order to make themselves feel better. What is worse is that she is hiding behind her religion to justify her actions. People who condemn and nit pick in the name of God are the reason I have turned away from religion. I believe God is more concerned about the bigger picture of our world today and would be happy if we all just got along in peace. I believe God is a POSITIVE energy – a bright light so to speak. I hope her opinion hasn’t soured your experience – that would be a sin
Philly
I have to agree with Jacqui’s (out/09) every word. I saw your video and since I’m into the body art I didn’t even thought about you been naked. I saw the painting and also I remember thinking that you werent that tall. It didnt cross my mind the shape of your body. Some people have problems controlling their thoughts. If canceling their subscription will help them to control their thoughts and get close to their “gods”let them do so. You are not promoting pornography and you didnt have the intension to offend anybody. Did she even mention the video of you talking about the convention telling every thing about it? You sounded liked a little kid after summer camp. That was very nice. We can definelly tell your passion for what you do. You go through so much trouble to share your love for body art/face painting. I admire you for taking the time to blog every day to make sure we have the information we need. I know that your results are great I know Heavenly Father will bless you in many ways. Lets say you have helped save a life. You know what i am talking about. I just want to say Tivoli thanks for your dedication. You are great!!!!
Love Kika
Why is it that “christians” always demand that everyone around them respect their decisions but refuse to respect other people’s decisions. If you don’t like it, then don’t look. Nobody is forcing you to look. Obviously a Body Art Convention is going to have “bodies” in it. There is nothing wrong with the human body – “God” created it afterall. This art work is beautiful – as is the canvas it is painted on. You should not even have to ask if you are in trouble – it is nobody else’s business what you do – do not apologise for doing what you feel comfortable doing.
I’m not religous at all but was taught religous education at school. One of the stories told was of the garden of Eden where, if I remember rightly, the sin was Adam and Eve discovering their nakedness and trying to cover it up!
I think religion is great for the people who feel they need it but I am not keen on being forced to accept others views on it.
You look great in the photo and the only thing that should be of interest to the ‘viewer’ is the body art. My boyfriend and I are tattoed and if people look at us it’s because of the art not because they’re leering at our bodies.
Live and let live I say.
I think body art is wonderful! – I really don’t think that it is an issue. You look fabulous! How different is this than wearing a super skin tight lycra outfit?
I was starting to think that I was the only one who disliked body painting. I am truly in love with face painting and love being a face painter. I don’t understand the attraction to body painting. It makes me feel rather uncomfortable.
This is one reason, I was so pleased that there will be a convention in January that has a PG rating. I’m hoping that means there will be no unclothed bodies walking around… that is really not for me. I’ve never spoken up about this before, because I thought with so many people raving about body painting and being a body painter, that it was probably an unpopular opinion in the face painting community. I would love to see and be a part of a face painting group, that does not focus around body painting.
I don’t want to be a body painter or a belly painter!! I want to be a face painter!
When I do my face painting, kids always want other places painted too… their arms, their legs, their feet and ankles… its not just facepainting!! In fact I prefer painting arms legs and feet because I face paint on the street every summer and would rather not always paint those big face paintings cos who the heck knows what can happen! And there is more room to be an artist too… they like when I paint original cartoon characters!! They like flowers going round their arms, dolphins and whales swimming down their legs, rainbows and stars and fake sandals and socks. And they like pretend tattoos on their ankles. I find that its more popular then big facepaint. So kids like body painting… its just they aren’t up to that whole body art thing yet!!
When I do my face painting, kids always want other places painted too… their arms, their legs, their feet and ankles… its not just facepainting!! In fact I prefer painting arms legs and feet because I face paint on the street every summer and would rather not always paint those big face paintings cos who the heck knows what can happen! And there is more room to be an artist too… they like when I paint original cartoon characters!! They like flowers going round their arms, dolphins and whales swimming down their legs, rainbows and stars and fake sandals and socks. And when they want the pirate thing I add a skull and crossbones tatoo and a ship to thier arms. And they like pretend tattoos on their ankles. I find that its more popular then big facepaint. Its because they can see the art. So kids like body painting… its just they aren’t up to that whole body art thing yet!!
I have to say that when I looked at the pictures, my mind was flipping back and forth between the artwork and the shape of your body underneath the paint. I wasn’t uncomfortable with my recognition of your body, but I think my cultural upbringing made me unable to totally focus on the art. I didn’t even think about how you would have had to pose in front of someone naked – I just didn’t think about it. Do I think it is art? Absolutely. Do I admire the artist’s talent and work? Without a doubt! Woud I be able to do that – no, I’m way too shy. Do I think what you did was a “sin”? I can’t judge that. I think a sin would have been committed if you were having relations with the artist outside of your marriage – only you can say that. I think religious leaders understand that when people are in those situations, that leads them to thought sthat are disrespectful of others’ bodies and of commitments they have made to their spouses. If being in such a situation leads you to have thoughts or actions that are against your beliefs, don’t attend the conferences and don’t view those pictures on the websites. I have to agree with the comment that questions why some Christians are motivated to judge another and pronounce their decision as if it’s the “right” one. As for me, I’m glad you posted the pictures. I find them intriguing and I love to see the work an artist can perform given such an interesting canvas. And by the way — congratulations on being so brave!
I am of the opinion that it is a little distasteful to walk around in the buff, but wasn’t there an actress on the set of XMen that was body painted and there was not a lot of hoopla about it. I personally would not like to walk up on you in full body paint and nude. I, as a woman would be very uncomfortable. Especially if I had my children with me.
I appreciate the art of it and the talent, but I think you can do the same with maybe something on to cover the sensitive areas.
Thank you for allowing us to speak our oppinions. As far as another man painting you… I think that is between you and your husband. It was not sexual in nature and if your husband has no problem with it no one else should.
Our bodies are so beautiful, you cover with paint, so was not really nude.
I feel if you see the art, you won’t think anything about the nude…comprende?
Art is art……
Hi, Philadelphia,
I would have to agree with this person that, if I had been there, I would have found it offensive to have you with nothing but paint on your body. I realize within the art world nudity is often displayed, but I think in public there should be a certain sense of modesty and decorum. You could have covered the very personal and private areas of your body and painted right over them, if they didn’t match, and combined them with the body paint. People are arrested for public display here. I don’t think paint covers it. Thanks for the opportunity to say so.
Hey, Philadelphia!
Bravo for risking this discussion! People too often shun “politics and religion”, when it’s through debate that people learn to think for themselves.
I think there is a time and a place for sharing faith. I do not agree with the practice of my fellow Christians who point out sin in others. Jesus didn’t do it quite that way, and we are supposed to be like HIM, not like the Pharisees. Christians are called to love everyone, even the enemies of God (people who are not living for HIM are his enemies by nature–I was once his enemy, but by his grace, he called me to know him and now he calls me friend and child). If you are in a relationship with a Christian and you are sharing your lives as friends, then she may have rights to pray first for her forgiveness, then to bring your attention to God’s word, and it’s up to you to discuss your heart with God–that’s it.
God is not concerned nearly as much with our actions as with our heart.
God is not offended with your naked body–he made it! He made it beautiful!
(God does want His people to practice modesty, so that their beauty is for their mate alone, but you are not one of his people by your own admission, so his rules do not apply to you. Should you want to know Him and let him transform your life–with love, not condemnation and “religious practice”–you need to simply talk to Him–that’s called prayer–and let him talk to you–that’s called reading the Bible. Regardless of what any people say, He says in His word, that that is all there is to it. I hope you do choose to become a child of God, and you have my email if you want to know more of my point of view on belief. I will not stand in condemnation of you or tell you what is right or wrong for you. When God sets a rule or guideline, He tells you clearly, and I don’t need to do His job.)
About body painting, I only like to view or paint on modestly exposed skin, which for me (other people will disagree) are arms, legs, feet, hands, shoulders, back, and pregnant tummy (so beautiful!!). And I choose not to go to a convention full of naked people walking around, but that is for my taste, not their condmenation in my eyes.
Art or nudity? I think they are the same thing. I also think they should not be for the general public. Paint or no, there is far too little maiden shame nowadays!
I love your work, I love your site, I love knowing you, I love face painting, I do not love viewing nudes–paint or no–in real life, I do not love the view Christians give of Christianity–we sin too, and I love Jesus!
Thanks for this, Philadelphia, you are so brave and talented and inspirational,
Your friend,
Angela Kirsch
I believe an important aspect of sin many people forget is intent. You were not walking around with intent to harm or shock people. You were displaying a wonderful piece of art work in a safe environment. Go you!
I agree with Lena . You did not intend to harm or shock anyone . In the Setting in which you were in this is very acceptable . Not to mention you were covered in your sensitive areas and were not completely nude( I guess these people were too shocked to look closely at the art work and see this to be true- YOU WERE NOT NUDE!!!!!). And may i ask what is the difference between this and a bikini? I see a big difference your entire body is covered by paint , you can’t see anything different then you’d see in a bathing suit on the beach. I am aware that some faiths believe that swimming with the opposite sex in the daylight is a sin but I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief . It is simple if you don’t like it or don’t agree don’t look. I happened to think you looked fabulous and the artist did a marvelous job. And Again PEOPLE SHE WAS NOT NUDE!! Philly you did nothing wrong and I have Morals and faith and I don’t believe God himself would disagree. I also believe that all faith and religion is by ones own interpretation and these people may see things that many others do as sinful. I have Question ? Did your spouse/signifigant other see this as you doing anything wrong? Then that is all you should be concerned with. Much love and admiration for wondering how we all feel, but you and he are the ones who matter in this situation. BE PROUD!!! LAcey
I can’t believe that someone would cancel their subscription just because they don’t agree with what you did. furthermore I can’t believe that she would consider quitting face painting because it is “so closely related to body painting” I just started face painting but not once has someone else asked me to do or if I would do body art. I personally would not walk around like that or paint somones privates unless it was my boyfriend amd i wouldnt let anyone but him do it to me, but that is my own insecurity.I’m not going to go around canceling subscriptions and preaching to people because of it. I wish I had your confidence, you have nothing to fear or be ashamed of.
I think this is an interesting controversy. I think skimpy bathing suits, skin tight intentionally provacative clothing can present a much more offensive, sexually explicit appearance than body art. Body art or clothing that is intentionally sexually provacative diminishes, demeans the woman’s body to the status of a sex object and I find that offensive. Frankly, in the photo, I can’t “see” the nudity because it’s covered by the paint/design. I have found myself “looking closely” to see if other people in body art photos are really “nude” underneath – just curious – and continue to be amazed at how much paint/design covers. I can’t endorse the concept that a person’s body covered by body art is nude and therefore immoral. Even, artistically speaking, the nude body can be a work of art – except in a community like mine where even fine art nudity is banned in the art museum!!!!! So a person completely covered with paint/design can be more “moral” or appropriate than a person in a tight-fitting body suit with printed body parts. I don’t think it’s necessary and in some situations, probably not desireable, to have body art on completely nude people, but if we want to visit “morality” let’s address sexually provacative and explicit advertisements and leave art alone.
I see nothing wrong in what your doing.I do to believe in God to the fullest.
I feel that lady was a bit judgemental toward you. I myself would love to get into facepainting/bodyart. maybe becoming a model myself oneday.So you keep expressing yourself and have fun doing it.bye
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Awesome! You go girl….If you got going on like that why not show it off with or without paint…I’m jealous…..wish i looked tht good in body paint…..Keep up the good work. Every body is intitles to theri opionions; Thats what make the world a great and interesting place to hang out….
The designs are amazing and in a convention for exactly this body art is amazing, obviously people walking around in only paint is their choice and if comfortable why not take art off the paper or stone and make it more real. Because after all that is what it is -art – art is varied and everyone has there own perception of what constitutes art. I am not too comfortable with the shape of my body so I’d happily learn from your designs but you will never see me sporting any in public
) Whilst the world is still a free place to enable us all to choose what to think, believe and do – if you dont like it – dont attend!!!! K.
As nice as this lady was to you she was still insulting you by imposing her views on how you live your life, there is a button at the top of the page for people to click the page they are viewing off, if someone is appalled by what they see then they should delete it from view, makes you wonder how you can be attatched to a face painting blog without being able to appreciate the fine art form of body painting, I can honestly tell you that i did not notice your body or make a point of studying it as i could not see past the amazing talent of the person who had painted you, perhaps this lady should try looking at you like art instead of a naked body, sometimes people who make negative comments should ask themselves how conservative and religious they actually are when something so innocent can be sullied by their own personal views.
I would not walk around like that personally, to be truthfull. but in the context of a convention I see no problem. I do bodypainting with my husband and to us there is nothing sexual about it. I bodypaint on completely nude people.
I’m from Israel and here there are a lot of people who agree with that view. luckily, not all, otherwise I’d have no work….
some men will look for boobs everywhere, but the work on you is not sexual at all- it hides features even, so you look like you’re wearing more than some girls when they go to the beach.
but anyway- some people will say that regular makeup or a skirt a bit short are also immoral and a sin. If those people want to be so narrow with their world, let them…I say live and let live.
Hi Philadelphia,
First off, I want to let you know that I really love getting your emails, tips and videos. I love the ebooks that I purchased and they have really helped me a LOT!!
I too am pretty conservative in perms of my faith but am also pretty opened minded about all types of things. With my family, I have to be!!! LOL I would NEVER have the nerve to tell someone that what they believe in or how they conduct their life is sinful! That’s for Christ to do, not man… I don’t judge least I be judged, for I am a well rounded member of the human race…
Now, my question is why she was going through your photos in the first place if she’s such a conservative?? You did mention she was polite and kind which shows she has some manners so I’m glad she didn’t blast you completely.
I personally wouldn’t model as I am a fluffy girl, but if I weren’t, I may contemplate a painting with either a full panty and sports bra or a body suit. But that’s just me. I love seeing the work that others do and am not in any way offened by the human body. Although I some times feel that pasties would be a good thing for some of the ladies as the nipples can be a bit distracting if not completely hidden by the painting… I guess art is and will always be judged by perception, and each person will decide what they concider art, of any type, and what is not art. Regardless, we all know that you aren’t doing anything that is vulgar or offensive. Again, she perceived it to be offensive, so to her it is!! You and I can not be held responsible for how others react to what they see or hear. It is a beautiful piece of art work and you are in fact covered up, BY PAINT!!! ;o)
Hugs and kisses to you and chin up! We are all made stronger by the rocks that have been hurled at us!!
Anabel Rodas
Hemet, CA
Hello Philly,
I’m a fairly conservative Christian/Roman Catholic and I respect this person’s views, certainly, but I could not disagree more.
I think body art just gives us a bigger canvas to work with. It’s exciting and beautiful, and I have seldom seen anything too daring or provocative for my tastes–and I’m a bit of a fuddy duddy, frankly!
So, I think you look great in the photo. It’s never even occured to me to be offended by full body art.
Lots of love to all, Marjorie
Oh my God, (pardon the pun), that this is even an ISSUE is beyond me! How can anyone appreciate art (17th century paintings are a fine example) if they cannot appreciate the human body..perhaps chritianity was a little more uninhibited then? It is what you make it. If all you see is tits and bums, then that is a reflection of your own narrow-mindedness… It has nothing to do with religion and what is regarded sinful! I am not of any religious faith. I believe in the kindness of humanity, mother nature and common sense. I don’t need a book (or any other human) to tell me where to find decency in those things. And I certainly don’t preach to others about what I find wrong with their interests. Each to their own.
What I find funny about this is do these ‘christians’ walk down the street blushing thinking as each person walks by…’Heavens above..that person is NAKED under those clothes!’ Where do we draw the line? Is it indecent to show a shoulder/ a knee and elbow? Nipples and buttocks were part of God’s finest creation too weren’t they (or was that part the Devil’s doing?)…
In any case, body art is beautiful, and while there is so much indecency in the world, this is not something worthy of being so worried about.
I beleive that you were truly brave to walk around the convention in just body paint – i’m not so sure i would have had the nerve myself – so good on you!!
Art in all forms is something that in many cases is controversial, you only have to look at Tracy Emin’s unmade bed – that won a Turner prize in my house it would have just been tidied up and the bed made.
The body art shown in your slide show was amazing and I only wish the work I could do would ever be so good.
Honey, your body just happens to be your own pallet, of course I would worry about your personal safety only because of the low minded “nut jobs” out there that think that EVERYTHING is an invitation.I think that you were perfectly beautiful and it was presented in an appropriate venue,I am reminded of the legendary Isadora Dunkin….when did we start legislating “art forms”….artists are rarely our husbands….Muses are usually paired with someone stable and left brained ,I think(opposits attracting and appreciating the other)I don’t think you are in any trouble,certainly not with me, a 59 year old presbyterian,art lover,be well and….Carry on!!!!:)
I am a christian clown and alot of traditional christian questioned the gift that God blessed me with. I have been taught from the Bible that not all have a understanding of God the creator He is the supreme ruler of all creation. I’m referring to Jesus Christ and God the Father and The Holy Spirit. I do know that he was the First at what he did wehen it came to crating heaven and earth. I will say this if you can do it to the glory of god pursue and only he will judge your work at the judgement seat of Christ
With respect to the artwork displayed on your body, it was beautifully executed. As to whether one should display themselves in the nude in a public venue, well that is the choice of the person who exposes themself…not only in the nude, but to criticism or negative reaction from others who may be offended.
Scripturally, (see Romans 14) we are instructed: 13″Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way. Verse 15: “But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat [context-behavior, actions] now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat [behavior, actions], for whom Christ died.” Verse 16: “Let not then your good be evil spoken of:”
In God’s Word we are instructed to consider others and to not provoke offense with our actions. Of course, people who do not believe God’s Word is God’s will, are not compelled to follow its instructions. God gave free will to all and we are therefore each responsible and must be prepared for the consequences of our own actions.
In my opinion your picture on this blog is beautiful——however, I would not have guessed by it that you were not wearing a bikini or leotard under the paint.
Since you don’t know how people would be affected by your nude painted body—-a bit of clothing might have been a good idea. (a wee bit of a swimsuit) Another thing to consider—were there any children or young persons around who might have seen you?
Had I been there with my daughter (as a child or teenager) I’m afraid I would have filed a complaint and left.
Art is meant to be appreciate—a fine nude painting, statue, even posed live forms. But it is normally appreciated where a person expects it and can have the option to view it or not. Having a nude painted body appear before you removes that option.
Why is this an issue? Why is this suddenly a religious issue? How strange.
If a person has ever done or seen face painting before, then they must have been exposed to body art. The two go together. Why would anyone be “surprised/shocked” to see bare chests at a FACE AND BODY ART CONVENTION??? What on earth did you expect the artists to paint on?
Body painting is normal and it also happens to be one of the most ancient forms of art on earth. The bible thumping has to stop people! Sheesh!
I think that if Bonnie were to have a young person with her at such an event,instead of lodging a complaint and leaving,she might consider what a good opportunity to start a dialog with the younger/impressional person.”What do you think?”….” this is what I think”,that sort of thing.It might be an interesting exchange….or a missed opportunity …….hear from the mouths of babes and be careful what you teach them:)
Hi,
Museums have had the same arguments about the naked statues. It is art The only input I can add is you can’t please everyone.
I would like to say to all Bible scholars . Did you read about God creating man and woman there were no clothes tell after the fall of man. Genesis2:7,8. I agree with the persons who appreciate art in all forms. I hate to say it but people are still ashamed of who they really are an always preaching to others the do’s and donts. Let God be true and every man a liar. We don’t know everything if so why are you still on earth?
I personally don’t think of what you did as a sin. I’m not a highly religious person, but I do have faith. And if this person is saying what you were doing was sinful, I believe them to be wrong. I know their faith is more likely than not to be catholic or christian (If not sorry). If that is the case, in their faith, GOD made us to be naked. In the story of the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were not clothed, which is what GOD intended. So, for that person to be offended by that, they are kind of critisizing their own religion. Please, continue what you are doing with the body art, I find it absolutley beautiful and look forward to seeing my zodiac (Pisces in case you are interested). And if that person is giving you grief about it or anyone else is for that matter, keep in mind that they are looking at the pictures by choice (just as you modelled them by choice which is your own personal right), if they don’t like the photos or are offended by them for whatever reason, then they don’t need to look at them. Don’t worry about people like that, who try to enforce their opinions or beliefs on others. Enjoy your choices and feel content in the fact that there are many more people in favour of what you do and the beautiful works of art you are willing to share with us. Take care, and be proud girl!
I look forward to your next work. Good luck. 
~Crystal Jem~
Thank you all for sharing your views and opinions, I just posted a video to share my opionion check it out right here:
http://facepaintingtips.com/blog/2008/10/15/body-art-controversy-my-thoughts/
Happy Face Painting,
Philadelphia Tivoli
P.S Please keep sending in your opinions, I’d love to hear them!
I cannot believe having your body painted has become such an issue with people.
I honestly would not of guessed that you were totally naked in your pictures but my only worry is for all those crazy stalkers out there. The people that disagree with it have a choice not to look. you look beautiful hun. body art is amazing and if people could only see past the nudity they would see how talented and amazing it is.
Dont stop what your doing you have inspired me and im sure many others to come.
Christine Smith
Wow. You’re right. What a can of worms….errr snakes. I am akin to both sides of this reasoning, both Christian and non. I see her point as I share her views and would never pose nude for anyone other than my husband (as if I had the body for that anyhow.) HOWEVER, each man must work out his own soul’s salvation. Maybe just to appease her and others who share her view you could post a “warning label” stating nude-like pictures or whatever. Since we are talking about sharing tips here and not each others moral fortitude. By the way Philly….We serve an Awesome God. but even when Jesus sat by the Samaritan woman at the well, never did he call her names. He approached her with love and understanding. I understood what you were doing and love you….love your work and think and believe your contribution to our profession is very generous and giving on your part. Time will heal. P/S I cried for you when I saw the You Tube video. I was wounded to know that you were hurt. I am a very tenderhearted person and would never intentionally do anything to offend or hurt someone else. On behalf of myself and other believers who share my opinion, I am so sorry. (((((Philly))))) Lots of Christian Hugs to you. I have ordered many of your books and would never be as far in the business as I am today without your dedication….even across that great ocean(s). I appreciate what you do.
I believe the body is a beautiful thing and not to be ashamed of. Don’t let her upset or try to shame you for sharing your body as artwork. We were all born naked, it is only because of societies rules and a lack of confidence in our own bodies imperfections that we must all cover up, but it isn’t really ‘natural’. lol. keep up all your good work.
Art is subjective, what you did by sharing your pictures with us from the conference was in my humble opinion perfectly acceptable and fine. As a new face painter I take great pride in the work that I do. I found nothing offensive with your pictures, quite the contrary; I showed them to my wife and children and we were all equally impressed with the skill of the artist.
As a father I would be much more apprehensive to allow my children to see “Classics” of the great Leonardo, or the scultpures of David.
I also appreciate the fact that you gave voice to an opinion that criticized you, as well as the lady who wrote you to tell you her honest opinion.
You did nothing wrong in my and that of my family’s opinion.
Sorry – did I miss something – What’s actually wrong with being naked? – it’s narrow minded people and perverted opinions that see wrong in something that’s totally natural.
Hayley
Come to think of it when I first saw your pictures, my first thought was ….. ” Wow ! Such a beautiful piece of ART and wish I can paint like this ..hehe !!! ” Right, it’s a fantastic piece of artwork !!! The professional artist did a very wonderful job on one of God’s creation … YOU !!! ……. I don’t see any ” NAKENESS “in there at all !!! You are BEAUTIFUL !!! It’s ” SOULLY ART ! ” I picked up facepainting not long ago and I’m amazed by the talents of those professional Face and BodyArts painters.
Hey , Philadephia dear…. You did it all in the ” RIGHT PLACE, RIGHT TME AND RIGHT ATMOSPHERE !!! ” Keep up the good works. I love them.
I feel people should have something on. If just to cover someparts of your body. I am not against body painting but feel it should be in good taste.
That is a nonsense, you with your body do whatever you want, as long you don´t hurt anybody(assuming you don´t do it in front of kids). but if every body was adult well done.
i´m from Spain and here most of women go topless on the beach, and that is natural, so don´t pay attention to those people probably they are ashame of their bodies. greetings juan
Hi Philly/all, (second posting)
I just had my daughter view the slide show and asked her opinion on the photos she saw. All SHE saw was beautiful art! When I explained what had been going on, she said “mom, PLEASE!! that lady had on chonies and something covering her boobs, you can only tell”… there you go, this from a 28 year old female who notices what EVERYONE is wearing, how they wear it and so forth… I didn’t even notice you were wearing pasties and underpants! So to set the record straight, YOU WERE NOT NUDE!!!!!!
All this over what someone believes they saw you do!!! Again, it’s all about perception. Those that cancelled their subscription, jumped on the wrong bandwagon and are losing out!!!
I’m sooo very sorry you have been put through all of this. Let this be a lesson to us all!!! Jump too quickly, you may fall…
Hugs to everyone,
Anabel
Too be honest, when I saw your pictures I was so amazed at the art work that I didn’t pay any attention to ‘nudity’. Some people might say I should, but I can’t help it if I didn’t pay any attention to it. Such lovely art work!
Don’t let others peoples opinions bother you. It was a Body Painting convention and if people don’t want to see it they have the right to go elsewhere. You had a wonderful opportunity to have your body painted by some of the most talented artists in the business. As a male bodypainter I can understand some peoples concern. But I view the person that I ‘m painting as a human canvas and as long as there is mutual respect and love for the artform I fail to see what the issue is. If some people have a problem with you posing for bodypainting it is just that. “Their problem” not yours. Well done Philidelphia. You look fabulous!
Tell her to get a grip, start worrying about her own personal life and not yours. I f she was so offended, then go and look at the rest of the pictures and get over it!
It’s painting, its not about bloody religion!
When I saw your photos I only saw them as art. Sure I thought, wow, I wouldn’t have the guts to do that myself, but then I have never been very self confident. Were your photos presented in a sexual way? No! Could someone make them sexual? Sure, you can’t control another person’s thoughts or how they interpret things.
Through a myriad of links you have exposed your subscribers to the art of painting on skin, including body painting. I am almost sure at one time or another I have come across body painting that included nude models by way of your site. If I am correct, why has no one complained about that? And if this is the case, then why does it have to be you and your photos that people have a problem with?
Regardless, you are an artist. You have made no promises to anyone and we should have no set expectations of you. You have provided us with wonderful instruction on painting techniques and products. You have no disclaimer that states you will refrain from any experience or sharing. You cannot satisfy all of your subscribers all of the time, and you would be silly to try. But what about those who might be ready for body painting? You might have some of them too!
Perhaps when you want to share photos, or links with your subscribers you might consider creating a written warning in red stating “if you do not wish to see this link due to the nude but tasteful or artistic content, you may choose not to select or click on this link”. Then everyone can be happy and you can meet the interests of all of us!
As always, I look forward to seeing you in my inbox.
As for the issue of the artist not being your husband, that is between you and your husband and the artist, not us. When I am perfect I get to judge others… I don’t ever see that happening.
I don’t understand how this is offensive???
Do those who think it is offensive also think the statue of David is offensive? (he doesn’t even have any paint on !
It’s beautiful! Congratulations to Artist and Model!
From what I know all body art painting is done with at least a gstring on, so it is only topless. For an artist to be able to completely cover the body in a way that is tasteful, respectful and artistic, is incredibly clever – not ‘sinful’.
Lets all aim for bodies that can be painted up like that and look great. Be proud!
Hi to all I am new here to face painting. I am a christian I think we all have a free will and the freedom to do as we want. I think that if we don’t like or feel that something is worng we should keep it to are self and just not be a part of it. I don’t feel I have the right to tell some one els they are sinfull or bad. that is not what God said he said to love your brother. and he said if you are with out sin cast the first stone. also many of you said that we as Christian should in so many words keep are feelings to are self. We were ask just as you were to say how we felt so please don’t put us down and judge us then you are doing the very thing that the lady that stated this did. I dont see any Christians puting you all down for what you are saying give us the same rights you want. I really am not trying to be mean but so many times I hear if we as Christian don’t like something then don’t go don’t look but there are so many Christian things that have been taken away becuase people that don’t believe say they are offensive Baby Jesus, ten commanments the stores and others that take the word Christmas out of every thing I could say the same thing don’t look you have that righ. Painting my body is not something I would feel peace about doing as a Christian or non Christian . but what you did was your freedom to do. but people saying that we don’t like are bodys, and some other things that were said were not nice I would never want to hurt any one. I just want to love people. and have the same freedoms. love to all
Wow i think this i amazing body paint and if someone is proud enough of there body to show it off in this way then good on them, art comes in many forms.
As reguards to the sin that is supposedly being committed then why arn’t we born clothed ask god that one if it’s such a sin being in the nude!
Carry on the good work, Inky
Actually, if you can learn the art of body painting there is so much $$ in it!! Ecspecially at festivals where its big. I had a friend who did body painting at the Fantasy Fest in Key west and he made enough money for the rest of the year!! Not only is it an art, but its lucrative!! And adults just love it!!
Wow !! You have really caused a stir and a interest in Jesus Christ and our relationship to him. You have also challenged the truth that it is a personal conviction to believe or not. Universally Christ died and I’m so glad he lives eternally sitting at the right hand of God the father admiring the fact that you got the message out. May someone read these blogs,comments and accept Jesus today. All because you were bold enough to be CREATIVE JUST LIKE YOUR CREATOR!!! Thank YOU for keeping it real and raw and radical. God Bless You!!!
It would be one thing if you and the other models were actively soliciting X-rated activities, merchandise or other products involving sexually themed material. You were not! There is no difference between the wearing of a long sleeved lycra shirt, like the Under Armour brand, and the slightly thinner layer of paint you and the models were wearing. If you were being painted in an area where anyone could watch, from the moment you disrobed until the moment the art was completed, and kids were present, there might be an issue. Since you were not, the overly conservative opinions of some of the folks offended by your beauty mean nothing. God made man and woman in the nude, according to the Bible. If anything, we should be chastised for covering up what He created originally to be nude.
Please continue just as you are. You’re doing wonderful work for us all and I appreciate it very much.
Dave
I am an artist (more paint on canvas and whatnot than facepainting, although I am also very interested in that) and would also consider myself conservative. I am a Southern Baptist and Republican and all of that. I found nothing wrong with what you did. To be quite frank, you aren’t/weren’t a slut. And I’m sure the artist was not a pig. Could and would I be painted? No. But that’s me and my level of comfort – not any moral issue. The painting was beautiful and old statues are incredibly far more risky than that. Degas had the model for The Little Dancer pose nude. Was he a child molester? No!
To be honest, what concerns me far more than the body painting is the situation with society. An more, we can not decern art from porn just as we can not discern innocent remarks from racism.
A brief follow-up after seeing the slide show and not just the shot of you:
I did find the one with the painted-on jeans a bit inappropriate.
However, ‘offensive’ seems a little strong, because ‘offensive’ is attacking your personal beliefs, not just counter to them.
As I said just a few seconds ago, INTENT is the key word.
Done.
My name is Lisa, and I have started my own face and body art company here in Northern California. I am a strong Christian woman, and I think body painting is absolutely beautiful, but I also believe that it should be done tastefully and modestly. While painting on a completely nude body is art, I see it is sexualized art. Most of my body painting is on pregnant tummies, but when I do paint an entire body, I require a bikini to be worn. The art is just as beautiful, but the woman is appropriately covered. This way, the focus is on my art and only my art, not the large breasts underneath it.
I really don’t see any point to painting nude breasts other than to bring sexual excitement to the artwork.
I would never feel comfortable with my husband or children seeing naked painted women walking around, therefore, I won’t participate in it. I do understand that many face painters also do nude body painting, so this isn’t something I would unsubscribe over, it’s just something that I will never get involved with.
I also must comment on the comparison between body painting and the Sistine Chapel being the same type of art. I totally have to disagree here. There is a huge difference between painting a naked Adam and Eve onto a ceiling, and painting a live naked woman who will be walking around in public. I REALLY don’t think anyone has ever been turned on by looking at the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, but every single man I know who has seen pictures of nude painted women has appreciated the photos for everything BUT the art.
I don’t believe that you did anything wrong. It’s art and it’s beautiful in my opinion. I believe that it expresses another side of the art that you do and it should be appreciated. I wasn’t in no way offended of the fact that you were nude and in my opinion it’s not that obvious at all. You go girl do your thing…
I believe if you are comfortable within your own skin, then so be it. Wear it and be proud and look confident as the photo shows. Someone should not impose upon someone else what their belief or faith allows them to do or not do. Saying it nice does not change the fact that it is not her place to say it at all. Then my last coment would be to her, people in glass houses should not throw stones. If and when you are or become God and are perfect then judge someone, until then pray silently to the God you serve to help you remove the stake from your own eye first. If she claims to be religious then she knows what I mean.
I would just like to say that we are all born with no clothes on. Since when is the human body to be looked at with shame. We should be proud of ourselves and proud of every part of our body. It is society that scorns the beauty of the naked body but yet uses sex to sell everything on TV. Does this woman allow her children to watch regular television. If so she is inadvertently subjecting her children to the very thing she is against. I believe in God but my God would never judge me for finding the human body beautiful. The human figure is art in itself. Body painting enhances the beauty that is already present. I think it is wonderful that you feel confident enough to model for these artists. The results were wonderful. Thank you for sharing a wonderful talent. Might I add how wonderful it is to live in a country where we can share such different opinions. Life would be so boring without it.
I think that its funny that she would consider it a sin. Just to be nude? You weren’t soliciting yourself. You weren’t acting in a behavior that could be con screwed as sin. You were simply walking around in the exact same state that GOD (if thats your belief) intended.
Your body was art. And it was beautiful. And we have been using our bodies as forms for art even before Jesus ever walked this earth.
Small minded as her view is I’m glad that we have people like her, it helps us to appreciate those around us that can open their minds and appreciate life and beauty and art for what it is without the damage of a preconceived idealism of what we are “supposed” to be doing.
Hi Philadelphia-
I think your photos are absolutely wonderful. This woman’s views of your actions are very closed minded. She sounds very self-righteous, believing that her views are absolute. I too am glad that she replied the way she did because without her ignorance you wouldn’t have had so many people show their support.
I am a faithful person- but no where in the bible does it say the body is shameful. It actually says womn should cover up because men are such beasts that the mere sight of a woman’s hair will drive them to uncountrollable lust, so the woman has to protect the man by covering up. So, it’s not you posing as a model that should even be the issue: it should be men even leaving the house! Was the email from a man? He was looking at naughty pics when he looked at you if it was- and if its a woman, she according to her own doctrine should have asked her husband about it, in which case she was exposing him to lust, naughty. There is only negativity in that line, have you noticed? Whats wrong with the body? It was created by God, for man and woman’s correct use- and paint glorifies the body, without any “sinful” or shameful content or bias, making it beautiful to both celebrate the talent (God given) and teh body (God given) without any “immoral” thoughts as its not a sexual thing- the body is not naked, it is covered. Yuo can still see the skin- but not the skin itself, only its shape. I think some people are going to be offended by anything- some beliefs are very strong- but no where in the 10 commandments does it say “You should not be naked”. It says women should be modest in the bible… but it doesn’t say what that means except in the OT, where it says LOTS of things that the NT repealed. But in the NT it says its what in your mind that counts- so unless the body paint was “smutty”, its the person’s approach to it, not the act, that matters. So, in seeing it as immoral, the indivdiual made more of a statement about where THEIR mind is than about where your morality is. And, last but not least, Judge not, lest ye be judged. I am faithful… not a Christian any longer I might add, as these self righteous morality police make me crazy. Celebrating life, beauty, the body without any abusiveness or “smut” to bring people closer to goodness… and they whine. You did nothing wrong: they however may be asked why they felt they had the right to judge others. And why they had to think smut where none was found- they are a little uptight and looking for release, methinks.
I think that body painting is beautiful and a great art. I also think that if you have it in your mind that the person is actually not wearing clothing that is a sickness in your own mind. The body art is to disquise the fact that you are actually naked. When done correctly you will appear to be clothed. I think that you looked beautiful and acted in a dignified manor. I would not worry about what others think. as I said a person will only see that you are nude under the paint if they search it out. I am a christian myself and I was taught not to judge lest ye want to be judged. So in other words keep your judgment to yourself. If you have a dirty mind you must take it up with your god and not place your guilt onto others that are causing no harm. The art was in no way pronagraphic or distasteful. You go girl!
Go to your conventions, model for the artists and post what you wish!! This is your site….do with it as you wish.
By the way…I think that the pictures were on a utube video clip and the viewer had the option wether to view the video or not. So all those who were offended, you chose to view the video so the “nudity” was not stuck in your face. You actually chose to view it, so if you are offended you have no one to blame but yourself!!
Keep up the good work Philidalphia!!
I consider myself a Christian. I have been to a Body Art Ball. I have taken face painting lessons from a well known body painter. As a christian I am very concerned about people of my faith distorting the 10 commandments. I have never been offended by a naked body. Not the ancient statues or a body painted to look like you are wearing clothes or art. There is nothing sexual about body painting unless you think that way. People that think like that can look at anything and they will think of sex. It is not the art or the fact that someone is naked under all that paint. It is your state of mind that makes something dirty or pure. I took my kids 10 and 11 years old to the Bodies exhibit. It was interesting and educational. All the bodies were naked. I guess we could have all been thinking sex. WE WERE NOT!!! I wonder what your critic would have been thinking? We all know the answer to that question.
As an after thought I realized we are all naked under our clothes. Oh my gosh. Are we all sinners?
Looking at body art, that is exactly what it is, art. Many paintings in the Vatican and churches depict nude or semi nude bodies (mostly women I might add). What you did was very tasteful and not like top shelf publications. Don’t mind the 000000000000001% of narrow minded people who seem to get some sort of kick from nudity because if they are so strong in their beliefs they would never look!!!! How would this person cope if they had to strip in front of a complete stranger i.e. a doctor to save their life, as quick as blinking. Keep up the great work.
I have always stated I paint on anything so don’t set still, I think it marvolus how this art has expanded, you go girl loved it. Would love to try it my self, narrow minded people don’t enjoy good art! I look forward all your Blogs to learn more keep it up as always Pokedot the clown
I think your pic is beautiful and tastefully done. I have found that those who really have a problem with the nude art, tend to be people who dislike their own bodies and I think they transfer their feelings of their body on to what they see around them. I feel that if you don’t like it you do not have to look at it. I respect other peoples view of nudity, but the body is a beautiful thing and if you think about all the things a body does it is an incredible thing. For those who are religious, I think that God created an incredible thing and He or She would not want us to be ashamed of what he gave us.
Dear Philadelphia,
hi, I’m Angela and I’m from Asia. Though our country is very conservation, but I thought just witness a most amazing piece of arts…wow! I do agree with many that have given their comments, an art is an art..we need to look at it as it is…(Btw, I’m a strong faith Christian too).
Bravo….Mark Reid, Yolanda Bartram and Lynne Jamieson
hi, im isaura from belgium. belgium is not conservative at all. and i think that there is nothing wrong with walking in the nude with paint on. it’s art, it has to be shown! even if you are a christian, adam and eva were nude as well!! something to think about isnt it ? i think it’s silly to comment on you like that. everybody does what he wants to do, and it’s not that you walk around naked oon the streets. its art! so i believe that you just have to do what you want to do, as long as you feel good with it! and there are more shocking things than bodypaint!!!
my regards isaura
oh i forgot something, if america is so conservative then why are the most porn stars and producers american? they go further than we here in belgium consider possible. there is so much fuzz about a breast, or a nipple, like janet jackson’s nipplegate.. but there is nothing wrong with the blatant disposal of sex and porn in america?? just look at the playboy and the three blond girls.. i think if they want to talk about inappropiate behaviour that they should complaint about that! and not about some beautiful body art! i really do think it’s amazing what those artist can do on the human body. it looks so real. if you wouldn’t pay attention to it, you wouldn’t even see that it’s painted!! really great job!!
Hi!
Just my 2 cents here; I was raised Quaker. Admittedly, not always the best one. However, I was taught that there WAS no shame in our naked bodies in the Garden of Eden. God made us and considered us good.
The Devil was the one that introduced shame in nakedness to Adam and Eve. Therefore, in my opinion, the only ones sinning, in this instance, are the ones that look on your art as shameful because of your nudity.
God didn’t want us to have shame in our bodies. The Devil does. So, those that scorn you for your nudity(when it is art-driven) are the ones that are sinning. Not you.
That being said; what awesome artwork! I am impressed. I came looking for tips on facepainting for my child’s Halloween costume. Definitely going to show her your pic! I know a “cool” will be forthcoming.lol
(BTW, a child seeing nudity is not losing any innocence. A child seeing a naked body being used SEXUALLY would make them lose their innocence.) God can see our intent; which is why He is supposed to be the only one that judges us.
Beautifully Done!
I’m just as conservative as anybody but this is very artfully done and I see no reason for anyone to take it upon themselves to condemn you or the art.
Your friend,
Brennan
I can’t believe all the negative responses….I am a Christian, too I found NOTHING immoral or sinful about your body art. IN fact, I loved it! I twas beautiful and you are too! It’s ART, people!
all those wanting to unsubscribe just because of that, is absolutely ridiculous! (and I think JudeB said it well)
This WAS art and very tatesful….you were covered up more than a lot of other things we see on prime time tv!
You keep doing what you do because you have got it going on!!!!
The art work is lovely, you look beautiful, and you’re at a face and body art convention. Anyone who has a problem with that needs to remove the stick from their rear end.
I personaly think it is awesome to be able display all form of art, people in every culture and religious background have been doing it for hundreds of years. Personaly I am married and my hubby thinks it is AWESOME I am able to express my art on liveing canvas he loves the varation of what I come up with. We are not religious but we appreciate all forms of art. I think people need to see the art and not the sexual appeal. It is not porn! The human body not matter what it looks like is beautiful and when body painting happens it just enhances the beauty of ones personality. I have met some really religious people who have learned to appreciate the art and not that it involves sex with body painting. They are always ready to see what we come up with next.
Thanx Kat
You made a quick reference in your video post saying some people who are religious made negative comments for you posting your body painting photos. Simply put, I have delt with many people who say they are Christians in my years of being a professional body painter. By saying body painting is lewd they too insult me with their cutting judgments against me, my hard work and the integrity I have. As a Christian who prays daily, attends Bible study and does my best to nurture the fruits of God’s Spirit within me, I must say I think my fellow belivers have blackened my good Christian namesake and caused you undue upset.
It would be sad but true to admit, “Some Christian are so Heavenly bound-they’re are no earthly good!” Its hard to admit that we can often socially find more love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control in most of your local town bars than in the arms of most “Christians” I know. This is a social epidemic amoung Christians. They are inmature. Thank you Philadelphia for having the wisdom to follow your instincts, keep your photos posted to share. You were not wrong. You are not wrong now. We are invited guests on your site and I appologize for anything insulting that may have been said to or about you by another member here. You go girl!
what kind of marker do i need to do body art?
Im so glad i found this page, bookmarked and waiting for your next post. Thanks for sharing with us all.
That depends on how one thinks. If a person is an artist. Does one think in pictures and if so pictures of what? Is a person religious? What religion? Does the person concider themselves to be a conservative or liberal?